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An ex-casino dealer and his brother-in-law have pleaded not guilty to swindling Bellagio casino in Las Vegas out of more than $1m with phantom craps bets over a two-year span. On Tuesday, Clark. An ex-Bellagio craps dealer and two friends were each sentenced Tuesday to at least four years in Nevada state. Were arrested in July 2014 and fired by the Bellagio after the scheme came to. Bellagio craps cheaters enter the Nevada Gaming Control Board’s infamous black book. The pair were convicted in 2016 of stealing $1.2 million from the Strip casino. Former Bellagio craps dealer James Cooper was an inside man in a scheme that defrauded the Bellagio out of over a million dollars. He said he got “caught up in the greed.” (Image: Michael. According to reports, a former Craps dealer and his brother-in-law pleaded not guilty for scamming Las Vegas’ Bellagio Casino out of over one million dollars in phantom craps bets over a two-year period. Yesterday the District Court Judge of Clark County Valerie Adair set bails for the two men. The mastermind behind the scheme and. Continue Reading.

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I don't know how the scam worked in exact detail, but assuming it was done over many sessions...the player doesn't have to win every bet. He doesn't even have to win half. Or a quarter. Or even 10% of them. He could be betting 'legitimately' most of the time, but every now and then, turn a losing bet into a winning bet. Being a boxman on a busy table, it can be pretty tough to keep up on the action if someone's routinely making hop bets for different numbers especially without a place to put the bets. IME, at least with a lazy boxman, box basically just lets the dealer handle it and doesn't care what's going on.
You have a guy who (theoretically) is betting $500 on the passline with max odds, maybe some place bets, those couple hundred dollar bets on hop-bets don't really seem all that important. You got other people at the table also betting several hundreds or thousands. You're not going to notice he's winning way more than expected, because a bulk of his wins/losses (normally) may come from his regular bets like pass/odds/place bets....at least not in a day-to-day analysis or short term. But long term, you'll see it.
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FleaStiff
Whatever was happening obviously came to the attention of someone and the casino had to go thru miles and miles of tape to manually assemble a record.
I'm sure there was some cover betting but probably not enough.
Wizard
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I do not know what bet that is and your 7 times in a row yo seems too low than 452 billion


I said it was like rolling seven yo's in a row, not exactly the same probability. However, for the perfectionists of the forum, it is like rolling a yo 6.895027494 times in a row.
I was at the Bellagio briefly last night but forgot to check the craps tables. However, I did check one at the Park MGM (same company) and it did have spots for hop bets. However, I think this is not the issue.
A non-forum member told me the gist of the scam was, as mentioned by others, taking ambiguous verbal bets, called 'call' bets, when they won and ignoring them when they lost. I thought most casinos had a policy of no call bets, for exactly the reason exposed in this scam.
In the movie Rain Man there is a scene where Raymond makes a large call bet in roulette, that I don't think would have been accepted at most casinos.
It's not whether you win or lose; it's whether or not you had a good bet.
AxelWolf
This isn't the first time we heard about this story, There must have been another thread talking about this when it first happened.
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SiegfriedRoy
When I'm taking care of the dealers at the craps table, sometimes the dealers conveniently hear or don't hear my call bets in my favor. That's huge EV+.
FCBLComish


A non-forum member told me the gist of the scam was, as mentioned by others, taking ambiguous verbal bets, called 'call' bets, when they won and ignoring them when they lost. I thought most casinos had a policy of no call bets, for exactly the reason exposed in this scam.


The 'NO CALL BETS' on a craps table specifically is for people who call out bets when there are not enough chips in the rail to cover the bet.
These players had plenty of chips in the rail.
Craps bets are booked verbally all the time. To correctly book a bet, the dealer needs to repeat 3 pieces of information: The bet, the amount, and player. Example 'easy 6 hopping for $5 each, next to stick'Bellagio
What was happening in the scam was the player would drop some cheques on the layout, and the dealer would point at him and say 'BET'. Yes, the other dealers on the crew, and the supervisor were in on the scam. They picked their spots where there were no other personnel around at the time. There would also be other things going on to get the floor supervisor away from the game, like a large buy-in on the other side of the pit, or a girl in a low cut top shooting the dice.
They only need to do this a couple times per session to have a huge advantage.Craps
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FCBLComish

When I'm taking care of the dealers at the craps table, sometimes the dealers conveniently hear or don't hear my call bets in my favor. That's huge EV+.


Huge EV+ and also cheating.......
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SiegfriedRoy

Huge EV+ and also cheating.......


I always do the right thing and drop my chips to pay for my lost call bet, but sometimes if the dealer says he didn't hear anything and refuses to take it front of the Pit, who am I to argue?Craps
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When I'm taking care of the dealers at the craps table, sometimes the dealers conveniently hear or don't hear my call bets in my favor. That's huge EV+.


I would call it cheating.
It's not whether you win or lose; it's whether or not you had a good bet.

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billryan

I would call it cheating.


I agree, but what would you do?

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Recently, I was playing, occasionally tipping but enjoying the dealer, who was entertaining the table. I have a $25 bet out. My 18 loses to the dealer but the dealer calls it a drawer. We locked eyes and it certainly seemed like he was telling me it was not an accident.
Do you correct him?
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